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Jink

Topic: Accuracy?
Posted: 2005/07/27 00:28

What is good accuracy with the different weapons? Often after a game i look at my stats for sr, lg and link secoundary. But not the rest because I dunno whats good.
I would say
lg>30
link>20

is good, but what about the others? Or is it impossible to say because of the option to spam in a game?
What should I aim for with the different weapons?






tewic

Posted: 2005/07/27 00:53

insane, above average, good or just okay ?

what i would say as good is:

+45% shok
+60% lg
+35% shaft
+50% rl
+75% combo

but depends 100% on how spammy you play :P






bruttO

Posted: 2005/07/27 01:08

Ok, time for some serious writing here!

(1) Accuracy in general

Accuracy is ofcourse one of the key factors in becoming a good FPS player (alongside with being able to calculate risks, time multiple items etc etc). You need to have atleast decent aim to be able to pull off som wins - but do you really need decent accuracy/stats to win? No.

First off all there's plenty of different weapons to master. Secondly, for every shot you fire with a weapon - chances shrinks that you'll end up with "omfg accuracy/stats". Also, it might depend on map, game-mode (1v1 or tdm), opponent's movement and your own style of play.

(2) Preffered accuracy with the weapons that matters

Lightning Gun: Around 30% might be considered the "normal" hit-percentage with this weapon. Anything above it is good - if you've fired many shots. Ending up with 30% with only 10 shots is as impressive as a dog who can poop - every fucking dog can poop! But 30% with 100 shots fired is definately OK (aslong as you win the game) :D. Also do remember that LG has splash damage, and I for one use to spam a little with LG = bad for the stats, but can be usefull if you wanna win! ;)

Shock Rifle: 30% with Shock is better than 30% with LG, definately, since you use the shock so much. The rapid rate of fire and the combospam usually equals low hit percentage with the primary Shock beam.

Flak Cannon: Spam-weapon 2k, very hard to state any "good" hit-percentage with this weapon. But if you use it "as much as it should be used" and end up with 25+ percent with primary fire - you are teh pwnar. :) (While you still own with around 15% ;))

Link/Minigun: (Bah I'm getting tired of writing..) Linkgun primary percentage = *careface*, its only used for spam and like 1% of all your close-fights. But the secondary fire is very usefull and should imo be at least around ~20%. Good accuracy with minigun = anything above 15-20% (online that is btw - LAN is a totally different story when it comes to all weapons).

(3) Last words

Don't put too much effort in looking at the end game stats - it'll only put grills in your head if you have any doubt in your aiming skills. Just keep on playing.. The more routine you get, the calmer you play and naturally you aim better and your overall skill goes upwards :).

And please do have in mind that it really matters who you are playing versus. It's not that hard for me to for example join some lowskill ffa tdm server and hit 50% LG.. But to do that in a tdm praccy vs n!faculty would be "slightly" harder ;).






Jink

Posted: 2005/07/27 01:11

omg insane stats!
I mean when you have played a good match(=not a bad, but average good game, but not insane) what should the stats then be.
60%lg, 35%link :S never ever will that be possible for me.






bruttO

Posted: 2005/07/27 01:13

Tewic, those stats might be your wet dreams, but nothing even near "guidelines".






exzs

Posted: 2005/07/27 01:13

stats = nothing imo

if you win a game against astz! with 1% in every weapon, that's great.
BUT if you loose against astz! with 30% in every weapon, that's very much worse then alternative 1.






Jink

Posted: 2005/07/27 01:18

Nice post brutt0!
I can see that i have to work alot with some of the weapons. But it is cool to have a guideline so I know what I should get better at.






mullinss

Posted: 2005/07/27 04:16

Accuracy?, never heared of..






Nagash

Posted: 2005/07/27 06:35

damage = everything

more shots with more accuracy = alot of damage = good = reroll mage

1 shock that hit is better than 5 that missed, eeeeey






Nagash

Posted: 2005/07/27 06:38

Nagash wrote:

damage = everything

more shots with more accuracy = alot of damage = good = reroll mage

1 shock that hit is better than 5 that missed, eeeeey


Totally agree






RassK

Posted: 2005/07/27 08:11

Nagash wrote:

Nagash wrote:

damage = everything

more shots with more accuracy = alot of damage = good = reroll mage

1 shock that hit is better than 5 that missed, eeeeey


Totally agree


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rmzs

Posted: 2005/07/27 09:49

DO NOT EVER LOOK AT THE STATS. TURN IT OFF, best tip ull ever get. if you try to play for accuracy ull end up missing more. and if you have a habit of checking ur acc during a game, i bet ur ass ull start missing shots after uve seen u have 70% lg. dont care about the percentages, care about actually hitting the guy. :D

I'm saying this cos i used to be an accuracy whore and checkign it all the time and i cant begn to tell u how many times ive missed shots after having seen that i have like 70% acc. besides, u wont spam shots etc when u play for accuracy, and a lot of spam shots are valuable.








cybo

Posted: 2005/07/27 10:33

End game stats about you accuraqcy just shows how much luck/badluck you had and how easy/hard and predictible movment your opponent had.

Altso 10% 5/50 may be better then 40% 20/50 if those shoots are made in critical situations like right before 100a spawns.










caesar

Posted: 2005/07/27 11:07

mullinss wrote:

Accuracy?, never heared of..

same. what is this accuracy you speak of?






Dodraugen

Posted: 2005/07/27 11:22

Accuracy is the ability of a measurement to match the actual value of the quantity being measured.

Accuracy in this case means your ability to hit your target. I think. :S






Jink

Posted: 2005/07/27 12:33

rmzs wrote:

DO NOT EVER LOOK AT THE STATS. TURN IT OFF, best tip ull ever get. if you try to play for accuracy ull end up missing more. and if you have a habit of checking ur acc during a game, i bet ur ass ull start missing shots after uve seen u have 70% lg. dont care about the percentages, care about actually hitting the guy. :D

I'm saying this cos i used to be an accuracy whore and checkign it all the time and i cant begn to tell u how many times ive missed shots after having seen that i have like 70% acc. besides, u wont spam shots etc when u play for accuracy, and a lot of spam shots are valuable.

Yeah, if I check my stats during a game and i have 40% lg, I can be sure to miss the next 3 lg shots :). But I dont see anything wrong in checking it after the game, since I am not afraid of spamming shots.






silkY

Posted: 2005/07/27 15:20

rmzs wrote:

DO NOT EVER LOOK AT THE STATS. TURN IT OFF, best tip ull ever get. if you try to play for accuracy ull end up missing more. and if you have a habit of checking ur acc during a game, i bet ur ass ull start missing shots after uve seen u have 70% lg. dont care about the percentages, care about actually hitting the guy. :D

I'm saying this cos i used to be an accuracy whore and checkign it all the time and i cant begn to tell u how many times ive missed shots after having seen that i have like 70% acc. besides, u wont spam shots etc when u play for accuracy, and a lot of spam shots are valuable.




Or.. rmzs is trying to fool us, look how good he is now, lets all check our accuracy all the time and become better than him! (Just a thought :) )






code

Posted: 2005/07/27 15:34

Aiming is a funny thing... The better you become the harder it is, because u EXPECT to hit. I agree with rmzs... ignore stats and play to hit opponent. I for one fire to many blind shots where I 'guess' the opponent will fly by an oppening etc --- SPAM RULZ !






Beleg

Posted: 2005/07/27 16:47

I'm certainly not doing those 60% lg that tewic speaks of. I had 44% in my last ctf-cup match on TwinTombs as a flagrunner. I fired 98 shots and I really felt during the game that I was hitting almost everything.

Maybe you can't compare tdm to ctf and ofc tewic is a lot better than me. I'm normally around 35% and I think bruttO is right about that the bulk of players do around those figures. But maybe all those top tdm players do around 60%.
And since there is weapon stay in ctf, the numbers for the other weapons will be much lower (you spam alot). You rarely run out of ammo.

I don't play that much tdm but I ran into tewic once on a public and 60% doesn't seem that far fetched.
Ctf-defenders are usually hitscanwhores. Thakowzky (tzk) probably also do those high numbers.






CRISTAL

Posted: 2005/07/27 16:58

i think ur wrong beleg:> if u managed to get 44% with 90+ shots fired.. damn, be proud mofo, dont think many people pull that shit off.. or maybe just the opponents sucked = easy to hit.
60% is pretty far from the truth for almost everyone. maybe 1 match in 50 or something, or a player like luxxiz/smi/cata/tevet or something @ lan not spamming that much..




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